The future of hunting? –Elitism or shopping or grassroots?

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The future of hunting? –Elitism or shopping or grassroots?

Reading about all the driving around that people do and all

the fancy things they’re involved with these days in hunting

and with dogs, it makes me wonder if we’ve left our roots

and traded hunting for shopping.

Can one really know the land in all the areas I read about

people driving to and ‘hunting’? (More like ‘visiting’.) Can one

have roots in these places? Hard to imagine people even having

serious friends in such places.

For the most part, I imagine most folks who do all this driving for hunting

are involved with preserves and guides.

Basically it seems like they buy their hunting.

I just don’t like the sounds of it.

And even local hunting, of course, is turning into this,

what with the DNR playing up all the tourism angles and the

license fees going up up up.

I hunt because I’m alive. I ain’t no steenking ‘consumer’.

Not anyone’s ‘customer’. No tourist. I need to eat and

hunting is the culture that has built up around that.

It can never be allowed to make a JOKE of that.

I read about the huge expenses people put out for

hunting. Those quail end up costing $1000 apiece.

It’s a joke.

Basically right now I’m a bit stuck, a bit stymied.

What I do is every season I go out for the game which

is in season and I get a little of it. I’m not a fisherman

or a hunter. Not a quail person or a pheasant type.

I’m a person. It all has its season, it all fits, for me.

Anyway, to get licenses for all the natural normal

outdoor food activities I do in a year now costs me

$100. It about stops me in my tracks. In fact, I haven’t

bought this year’s license yet. And I’ve hunted my whole life.

Is this what they have in mind for me? I say it costs me $100 and

I call it one license, because I do one thing. I live. I can’t separate the ducks from the

trout from the bluegill. They can sell them as 1000 licenses if

they want, but it’s all one to me. They can sell them for

$1000 if they want: it’s a ‘market’ to them; if they see they

can make more with a $1000 license, maybe that’s what they’ll do.

Maybe there will be so many poachers that we’ll need 3X the

rangers, maybe the rangers will strike for better wages and benefits, driving up

license fees even more. Then maybe we’d get yet another nifty career where the civil servant

earns more than the average person who pays his salary. And

maybe people will stop hunting and each remaining sportsman

will have to pay that much more to finance the new DNR office

building at the capitol.

What will the person living the way his ancestors lived do?

–Someone using the old gear passed down, reaping a little of

the bounty of the land around him. You think that MANY hunters

and outdoorsmen STILL don’t live just like their ancestors did?

Canning meat, working bees, running hounds, heading off to

the river with a pole. There are millions of these people still out

there! What will such people do with $100 license

fees? With rulebooks 200 pages thick? With all land posted and

the only land available locked inside elite preserves?

A normal person is responsible first off. Never

does anything that doesn’t make sense. A real hunter would

never spend more on licensing than he would save in meat costs.

A hunter is natural. The animals he hunts would never exert

themselves more than what they hoped to gain from it in a

tangible way. Hunters respect animals and hope to learn from

them. That’s the first lesson we learn from animals: they’re

not stupid. We try to live up to their standards. We learn to

make do, to do it ourselves, to do things the right way.

We don’t learn to shop.

A real hunter when faced with license fees that outpace what

he saves by hunting may well stop hunting. Or he will go underground.

Did you ever hear about how the people became criminals when the king outlawed

hunting on his lands in ye olde England? Did you ever hear about how all the real

culture that ever occured in the Former Soviet Union happened UNDERGROUND?

And we kicked their butts. We’re the real pros at making officialness kick the butt of

reality. They were just pikers. How many great cultural figures have stated that the market

poses more risk to freedom than a dictatorship could ever hope to? If the hunter

drops off the radar, but keeps doing what a hunter does, he is

no less of a hunter. He might be the only hunter left. If what

the others are doing is shopping.

In reply to my essay,

Aspenskyy wrote:

>

> I cant really agree with you on the shopping thing but I do think that alot of

> I was always taught that

> you have to work hard for something instead of just paying a large hunting fee.

We’re not used to thinking of our actions, hobbies, heritage in terms of

‘shopping’, which is why it seems so grating. But your own quote seems like

you actually do agree with me. ‘Paying a large hunting fee’ is shopping.

The thing is that freedom, or anything good, is easily lost. Our

heritage is not a gimme. Turning it into something you get by spending

is NOT the answer. In fact, it helps the snowball roll faster downhill.

We should resist the notion that ‘if you want to play you have to pay.’

Or ‘you have to fight for your rights.’ You play those games, you lose.

Those in charge of rigging the prices and the fights will kick our butts

if we play them on their turf. It’s a stage fight: we win one, they win 1000.

We put in some public land and improve a river a little: they turn America

into minimalls, pavement, TV and debt. 1:1000. Nice odds for them.

Remember, they make their money from screwing you every way imaginable.

Which part of your life do you think they’re content to let you have in peace?

They will not let up either. If we ever got away from high taxes or long

commutes, they’d boost home electricity rates 10X. If we got off the grid,

they’d boost something else, they’d do something to turn neighbor against

neighbor—Maybe they’d encourage lawsuits? Extreme posting of property?

Maybe insurance would go up 10X? (Oh, right, that all already happened.)

They make their money off of bleeding our heritage dry. And making us

think it was natural.

The thing is the enemy is us. We’re our own worst enemy. Greed, lotteries,

overtime. No one made us raise our hand. We’re all in the stock market.

Maximized profit means destruction. A weak culture is the greatest

success for those who exploit weakness. But almost everyone is making

money off of weakness these days. It’s called ‘the service economy.’

service on your debt, that is, on your desert.

Have we sold our birthright for a mess of potage?

 

capt. h. patterson ,therapy charters wrote:

>

> I have a lot of people”shop” for fish on my boat. not everybody has

> acsess to good hunting and fishing places. I don’t know many farmers

> that let people hunt. So get off your high and mighty stance!

I wish I could. Actually, it’s not high and mighty, darn it.

It’s American. The shopping mentality is what has killed

our culture and killed the ability of folks to go out and hunt.

(Liability and shopping go hand in hand.) Farmers used to

let people hunt. People used to have access. —Near to

very crowded cities! I won’t even say ‘even’. We used to

be Americans. Now we’re shoppers. You used to be able to

have good relations with landowners. Now the land is chopped

up, the owners absentee and turning over yearly.

We’re as bad as the Euro’s without the culture they have

as a stopgap. I.e., their land is as fully developed as ours

is fast becoming, but they also have a public culture

which allows people to enjoy a lot of that land anyway. We have

no public culture. As our land gets chopped up, people are

moved OFF it. Replaced by frigging NOTHING. It’s not like

anyone is ON any of all this land people are now kept off

of here in the US. It’s just a travesty. The more we ‘fight’

such loss, and the more we ‘pay to play’, the FASTER we

lose.

*****

I wonder what the costs and demographics of hunting have

been up to today compared to previous decades.

What with arable land being developed faster than an eye can blink

and leasing, clubs, reserves and such arising as a big access option,

what’s happening to the meat for the table hunter? How about

license fees in constant dollars?

Any changes of note hereabouts that anyone sees?

I myself am finding the Sportsman’s License (to do all

outdoor activities one naturally does) cost of ~$100 here

in Michigan to be somewhat prohibitive anymore.

I do outdoor sport harvests for about a dozen dinners a year, ave.

(Fur, fish, feather.) Just like I do my garden for a lot more food.

—But you need to keep an eye on gardening, too, or else fancy seed and

accessory costs will outstrip gains. To me, these activities are ACTUALLY

connected to cultural roots, not store-bought imitations. I do my

best to PROVIDE by way of field, stream and garden, not to shop

that way.

Also, the seasons and regs are seeming to make it all more of a

bureaucracy than a way to PROVIDE. I find that I need a filing

system to keep my hunts in order. And more and more often when

I go out for geese I see pheasants but I find that seasons don’t

seem to overlap as much anymore. So I see game but feel stumped

by the regs. Is this aspect getting any worse or more complex lately?

The regs handbook has sure grown into a nice paperback from the

flier it used to be.

It is interesting to me that my approach to outdoor sport culture

has ended up with me operating a lot more like the tribes

I read about in Natl Geo than any hunters I currently run into.

—I don’t buy stuff or drive anywhere, often use my gramp’s beatup

old wired-up singleshot, and a box of shells lasts a long time,

what with oneshot kills.

Most everywhere else I look I seem to a see a more money-based

approach, even among what appear to be poorer people.

When I was growing up it seemed that the integration of outdoor sports

into everyday life was a little more seamless. Plentiful game and

low costs seemed to let us keep the Hunting Provider culture alive.

Anyway, a person hunting for the table has to get a lot before

they cover these $100 fees. Is this anything new? —It’s possible

that in constant dollars what we paid out ‘back then’ was about

the same. But it didn’t feel like it.

*****

I’m getting a bit discouraged.

N. Am. arable land will shortly be fully developed and double

in population.

Public lands will be under heavy hunting pressure and will be

considered less than desireable, contributing to further

decline in hunting.

I heard a lady clerk at a local hardware store say that

she hears of fewer and fewer people who are hunters. She said it used

to be that school would about close down for opening week—for

pheasant and deer, around here. The thing is that people aren’t

farmers anymore. They aren’t locals either. They are transient.

Hunting is the first thing that goes. Even though we have more rabbits,

deer, turkeys and coon than ever before.

Private land will be almost all small-lot. Farmers and large

property owners will sell their hunting rights to the highest bidder.

These large lot owners will carefully cultivate their game and hunting areas

and create nice longterm blinds which hunters and clubs will carefully

reserve ahead of time.

The most money wins.

Like today’s Euro hunting scene.

Dog hunting, especially trailing, will greatly decline in the US/N. Am.

as room to run declines.

All property boundaries will be greatly enforced and disputed.

(I wouldn’t be surprised if this didn’t extend to FISHING also!

We might be surprised at Brit/Euro style of ‘private waters’ today,

but it’s coming our way, I bet.)

The new small lot face of America is basically an urban setting.

Most arable land will have no bigger than 10-acre parcels.

This creates lots of hunting problems, but one of them is noise,

another is tracking. It seems like the modern, camo archery approach

is best suited for not being visible to offend the easily offended.

(Which is everyone—that’s why they move to the country, dislike of

fellow man due to an overall lack of N. Am. culture, inability

to get along, so flee if you can is the rule.) But archery makes for

longer tracking quite often, which is untoward in a small lot milieu.

Quieter firearms, treestands (shooting downwards) and shoulderbone

shots to reduce tracking might all be part of the answer.

Corporate farmers will do the farming, and the people in the vehicles in

the field (one per 1000 acres) will simply be under company policy

as to how to handle anyone they see. But for the small lot

property, it is purchased to function as the owner’s larger toilet space:

private area to be kept clean of human presence. A place to depressurize.

To know is empty. It will have no other function. Your job creates so much

stress from treating people inhumanely that when you come home the sight

of a human, or even potential sight of one, is a shock to the conscience.

So even though you will rarely walk your own land (you will watch TV)

the thought that someone is out there will be unbearable. A human on

the land will represent the greatest most embarrassing intrusion and will

be met by screeching, mayhem, the law and lawsuits. Hunter landowners

will behave the same as anyone: screeching.

Of course, I mainly mean strangers on your land. But in today’s mobile

society everyone is a stranger. Those you get to know you will tend

to leave in a few years. So the best you hope for is that they

come to understand that you want to be left alone. Most folks wouldn’t

ask a friend if they could even picnic on their 10-acre parcel, which

is thus trod by no one.

What’s hilarious is that I’ve hunted, hiked and fished this local

area for 30 years. I’m not a stranger to any piece of it. But every

couple years I’m a stranger to the new owner. I can’t keep up.

The fact is that there IS NO MORE COUNTRYSIDE.

Poor man’s hunting was only ever a sign of the times anyway.

And the times were strictly as follows: People worked the land and

were neighbors for generations. No one moved. Allowing people on your

land was good for neighborly relations and helped protect crops, nor

was it any kind of possible deficit: in a true culture the presence of humans

out in the open air cannot take away from anything: you weren’t

invading anyone’s space, no one was stressed out against people

to begin with, and there was no such thing as a liability lawsuit.

The cultural aspects that promoted democratic hunting are largely

gone now. Basically, it would be like hunting in a city in a lot of places.

TODAY THE ‘NO TRESPASSING’ SIGN IS LIKE THE NEW STATE FLAG,

is all I’m saying. It’s almost laughable. I like the idea of dueling signs.

—Two ‘neighbors’ posting each lot facing the other. Post it every 5 feet

or so.

I note that Michigan outdoor sports media is encouraging

this trend. They’re trying to train hunters to realize that their best

hope is in simply buying the rights to hunt. Buying land to hunt on.

No more sharing the venison or rabbit pie with the farmer. Ha.

That’s a joke. People appreciating some fresh meat? Ha again.

No, it’s cash. And you know where that leads. Fat cats and lawyers.

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